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-[car horn beeping]
-[sirens wailing in distance]

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-Okay, so we'll try to take as much off.
-[Anna Wintour] Yeah.

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-As quick as possible.
-[Wintour] Yeah, that'd be great.

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Ooh.

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Sorry.

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[phone ringing]

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Hi, so it went well?

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Yes, it was good.

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-Yeah?
-Yeah.

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It was romantic and cinematic.

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-[Wintour] You look great, right?
-He cannot take a bad picture.

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-[Wintour] Good. Hiya.
-Hello.

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Vogue has always been the defining
magazine publication about fashion.

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[woman] Stop it.

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[Edward Enninful] Fresh!

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[woman] O-M-G.

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-Wow!
-There's only one, look at that face.

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-Look at that body, look at it.
-The body!

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-I mean...
-[exclaims]

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[Enninful] There's no one
like Naomi Campbell,

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there isn't.

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No wonder she gets away with murder.

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-Okay, that's not here yet?
-No, it's there.

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[Wintour] So three in, three out
and the cover.

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You never forget your Vogue covers.

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The dream ultimately
was to be on the cover of Vogue.

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When Anna put me on the cover,
it was like, "What?"

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Where's that blue one
we were looking at the other day?

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[woman] I think we have that one.

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When you think of Anna Wintour,
you think of just this like,

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chic, strong, boss woman.

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I mean, that seems
to be more in the palette.

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She is this Warholian enigma,

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like a famous haircut,
kind of like a living legend.

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[Tonne Goodman]
There's no two ways about it.

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Vogue is Anna Wintour
and Anna Wintour is Vogue.

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-[Wintour] So you want me to sit here?
-Yes please, Anna.

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-Okay.
-[woman] Anna, I'm sorry to ask you,

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would you mind awfully
taking your sunglasses off?

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No, I'm gonna wear them.

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-[Naomi Campbell] Right, are we ready?
-[man] Sound's rolling.

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[sighs] Wow,
what does the '90s mean to me?

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God, the '90s just changed everything.

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Way too much fun, way too messy.

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But I'll let Kate tell you those stories.
[laughs]

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Oh, no. [laughs]

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[Enninful] It was the decade that turned
the fashion industry upside down.

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-It was a whirlwind.
-If you made movies,

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you didn't hang out
with the fashion people.

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If you did fashion,
you didn't hang out with music people.

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[Amber Valletta] There was a huge change
that kind of happened with fashion,

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film, music...

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all of these creative industries
were starting to converge.

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It wasn't just about music,
it became about the clothes too.

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It was a great time to be alive.

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[Enninful] It really felt
like a revolution was underway.

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Every corner you would see this image,
it was inescapable.

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You have to anticipate what they want
before they know they want it.

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Oh. But we need to talk about the fact
that I was the only Black person too.

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They weren't treating us the way
they treat us now. Absolutely not.

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The public was fascinated by fashion.

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When I saw the Tom Ford Gucci,
it was like, "Oh, my God."

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You're like, "Yeah, I wanna turn heads,
why not?"

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[laughs]

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-Is everyone happy?
-[Gwyneth Paltrow] Define happy.

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[laughs]

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[♪ electronic music playing]

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That decade changed everything.

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Okay.

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-Okay.
-Okay.

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-All right.
-So I'm looking at you?

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[man] Yes, please.

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[radio host] No place like New York today.
What a day.

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Right now in Central Park,
the present temperature

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is still pleasant, 49 degrees,
humidity 44%, the wind's starting...

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Ever since Anna Wintour,
the editor of British Vogue,

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was brought to New York by Condé Nast,
there have been rumours

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that Miss Wintour would become
the editor of American Vogue.

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Now the hot publishing story
is that this probably will happen

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on September 1st.

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It was a big deal
when Anna went to American Vogue.

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I remember it very well.

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[Jonathan Van Meter] There was
a picture in some publication

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and then I, like,
leaned in to look at her,

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and it was just like a whole new character
in the universe

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was introduced at the moment.
I was like instantly fascinated.

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I'm actually concerned
about those bathing suits.

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I'm not sure we should
be doing them anyway.

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I grew up in England back in the '60s.

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I was interested in the world of fashion

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because it was such an explosive time
in London then.

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My dad was a London Fleet Street
newspaper editor.

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He also had a reputation
for being a little bit tough.

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I first started working in journalism
when I was in my late teens.

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And like so many things in life,
it just unfolded.

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[woman] These are the colours.
What do you think?

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-[Wintour] Fabulous.
-[man] It's great.

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It's gonna be a wonderful sitting.

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Condé Nast asked me to join Vogue
as Editor-in-Chief

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because they felt
it was time for change.

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Under the previous leadership,
every cover of Vogue looked all the same,

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very close up, airbrushed,

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big hair, big makeup, big earrings.

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Everything was very ornate.

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[in French accent] Before Anna arrived,
the magazine was extremely boring,

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boring, boring, beige, boring, boring.

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Sometimes you just need
to tear everything up and start over.

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-[beep]
-[people chattering indistinctly]

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[Wintour] I had no plan, but I knew
I had to have really creative,

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brilliant people working with me.

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She's very demanding,
she's very demanding.

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You have to give a lot of your time,

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but if she feels
you have a talent for a thing,

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she totally supports it.

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[Wintour] Hamish, I actually interviewed,

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and I could see my assistant
looking a bit pale.

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I'd been wearing my latest clobber

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and one of Anna's right-hand women
looked at me aghast.

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He walked into my office
and he and I were wearing the same jacket.

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[laughs]

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The same jacket.

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[Wintour] So I knew
he was the person for me.

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But I think
when you surround yourself with people

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that agree with you, it's a disaster.

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-Okay, I'd better see Jo. Thanks, Trudy.
-[Trudy] Thanks, Grace.

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[Grace Coddington] I worked with her first
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but I found it difficult, to be honest,
and she knew it.

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Grace actually quit British Vogue
because she didn't like what she called

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I was doing to Americanise British Vogue
and she went to work for Calvin Klein.

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It was just a timing thing
that I thought was perfect

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and she didn't, obviously,

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but we didn't lose contact.

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When I was given the editorship,
the very first phone call I had,

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sitting at this desk, was from Grace.

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She said,
"I'm starting on Monday, officially

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"and so why don't you start with me?"

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More, more, more. More, more.

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At this point in time,
I really was on a different trajectory.

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First Calvin and then Harper's Bazaar,
but Anna is very forthright.

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[Wintour] It took me a while
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but I succeeded.

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I think we all need people
that challenge the way you think,

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and that challenge the way
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and, you know why, for so many years
I worked so well with Grace or Tonne

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or Carlyne, of course, Hamish,

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because they looked at the world
through different eyes.

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[Carlynne Cerf De Dudzeele]
It was a good team, I must say.

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You know, when you are looking
at the row, it was like,

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"Oh là là. The Vogue team is arriving."

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I mean, it was fun! It was power!

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[pilot] I'd like to welcome you aboard
this British Airways Concorde

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and I hope that we'll
have a very special flight today.

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[engine whirring]

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I remember I was on a plane,
coming back from London

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and a very conservative gentleman
sat next to me and we started to talk.

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He asked me what I did,
and I said I worked at Vogue,

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and he said, "I love Vogue,
it makes me think of Audrey Hepburn.

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"Grace Kelly and I think about
all these amazing icons."

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And then he said to me,

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"And of course Vogue
could never be Madonna."

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And that was like a light bulb going off

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because I thought, "Well, of course,
Vogue should be Madonna."

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[male reporter] Nudity,
suggestions of bisexuality,

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sadomasochism, multiple partners.

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I like to provoke people,
but I don't think about the danger of it,

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and if there is a dangerous element,
that's exciting to me.

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Madonna was controversial,
but she represented

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such a shift in who was creating fashion,

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who are young women,
young men looking up to

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in terms of who their style icons were
and with all respect

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to the very, very nice gentleman
I sat next to on the plane,

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it wasn't Audrey Hepburn
and it wasn't Grace Kelly.

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It was a different generation,
it was a different time.

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[woman] Who do I wanna be? Madonna.

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She doesn't care what anyone thinks
and she's just herself.

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Every girl in some way
wanted to be Madonna.

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♪ Strike a pose... ♪

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It's Madonna.

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[woman] They're trying to find
a different way to dress

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than how their parents want them to
and everything else and that.

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It's a kind of rebellion.

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[♪ pop music playing,
Madonna "Vogue"]

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♪ Strike a pose... ♪

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We all love Madonna, let's say it.

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-We love Madonna.
-We love Madonna.

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♪ Vogue, Vogue ♪

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♪ Look around ♪

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♪ Everywhere you turn is heartache ♪

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♪ It's everywhere that you go ♪

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♪ Look around ♪

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♪ You try everything you can to escape ♪

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♪ The pain of life that you know ♪

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♪ Life that you know... ♪

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She was not afraid to express herself
with her fashion,

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express herself through her sexuality.

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[announcer] Madonna!

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[woman whooping]

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Madonna was the ultimate in girl power.

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♪ So come on, Vogue ♪

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♪ Let your body move to the music ♪

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♪ Hey, hey, hey ♪

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♪ Come on, Vogue ♪

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♪ Vogue ♪

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♪ Let your body go with the flow ♪

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-[chorus] ♪ Go with the flow ♪
-♪ You know you can do it... ♪

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I was the biggest Madonna fan.

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I was her dog walker
back in the day.

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She was my neighbour
and so I was, like, eight years old.

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♪ Don't just stand there
Let's get to it ♪

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♪ Strike a pose
There's nothing to it, Vogue ♪

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I remember waiting
for every Madonna video to come out.

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You would just wait for it to see
what her look was gonna be,

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what she was wearing.

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It's like where you get
all your inspiration from.

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♪ Ooh, you've got to ♪

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♪ Vogue ♪

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If you stay with the tried and true,
you're gonna get left behind,

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so I didn't think about the risk.

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You do what you think is right.

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I landed, called everyone,
the shoot happened.

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[beeps]

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[Wintour] Okay, good.
And the colour print of Madonna.

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It made perfect sense to me

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because she had become so associated,
Madonna, with fashion.

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She wore clothes,

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took clothes, made them her own,
redefined them.

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The idea of putting her on the cover,

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it seemed rather clever...
[laughing] to me.

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[Wintour] I remember looking
at the images,

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choosing the one of her coming
out of the pool.

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I loved the informality of it.

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[man] I just think
she looks so great here.

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[Wintour] The printers did call us
to say, "Have you made a mistake?"

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"And who's that pretty girl?"

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They didn't even know that it was Madonna
because at the time,

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there was such a defined image of her
being a lot more made up.

237
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This is a great picture.

238
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A T-shirt and jeans and a sailor cap.
You know, why not?

239
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But this is what she really
loves to look like.

240
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I think Anna has a definite mission.

241
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We tried to approach Madonna
in a different way.

242
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[Bowles] She was wearing
all the magnificent clothes,

243
00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:52,563
but she was just wearing them at home
and devouring popcorn,

244
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and there was something real about it
which was very new for Vogue.

245
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[Parker] I think it was probably
around that time

246
00:13:02,782 --> 00:13:05,659
that I started saving my March issues,
you know, I did that,

247
00:13:05,743 --> 00:13:09,580
was it the March and September issues,
the big fat gorgeous ones, yeah.

248
00:13:11,165 --> 00:13:16,587
One day I went over to walk Madonna's dog
and she brought down a shoebox

249
00:13:16,670 --> 00:13:18,714
and gave it to me and Kourtney,
and we opened the box,

250
00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:20,925
and it was all neon rubbery bracelets.

251
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And she said, "Here, girls,
I'm so over this phase."

252
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We went to school,
wearing all this neon stuff.

253
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And everyone was like,
"Oh, my God, where did you get that?"

254
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We were like, "Madonna gave it to me."
And they were like, "Yeah, right."

255
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I'm like, "No, seriously,
Madonna gave it to me."

256
00:13:36,732 --> 00:13:39,235
[Goodman] That cover was a huge success.

257
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Having her plastered
all over the newsstands,

258
00:13:43,781 --> 00:13:46,951
every corner you would see
this marriage of Vogue

259
00:13:47,034 --> 00:13:52,540
and this pop culture star who was,
you know, as daring as Anna.

260
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[Wintour] It felt new, it felt different.

261
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It felt like the statement
that we were looking for.

262
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-[man] Five, four, three, two, one!
-[crowd cheering]

263
00:14:04,093 --> 00:14:06,303
[man] Happy New Year, everybody!

264
00:14:06,387 --> 00:14:07,847
[fireworks exploding]

265
00:14:09,306 --> 00:14:12,142
[Enninful] Right at the beginning
of the decade, I was 18,

266
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I was a model and a stylist just
starting out in the fashion industry,

267
00:14:16,397 --> 00:14:20,359
and I remember going to WHSmith,
January 1990,

268
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and I saw five supermodels
on the cover of British Vogue.

269
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I just loved it.

270
00:14:26,490 --> 00:14:30,536
It was a black-and-white picture,
the girls looked like themselves.

271
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It was like a direct
sort of break from the '80s.

272
00:14:35,541 --> 00:14:36,834
Let's not forget those girls,

273
00:14:36,917 --> 00:14:39,962
they hadn't become the phenomena
that they would become yet.

274
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George Michael looked
at these girls and thought...

275
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[snaps finger]

276
00:14:44,675 --> 00:14:48,095
"That's a moment, I'm going to put them
in, all in my video, Freedom! '90."

277
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[♪ contemporary music playing]

278
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[Enninful] A popstar not appearing
in their own music video

279
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happens all the time now.

280
00:15:01,066 --> 00:15:03,611
But back then, we'd never heard of it.

281
00:15:04,737 --> 00:15:06,447
[Campbell] I had been listening
to the album,

282
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I was listening to it anyway.

283
00:15:09,366 --> 00:15:12,119
I just thought, "Well, if anything,
it's gonna be a great memory

284
00:15:12,202 --> 00:15:14,246
"for us to have this video."

285
00:15:14,330 --> 00:15:16,498
I didn't know it would create
such an impact.

286
00:15:16,582 --> 00:15:17,958
♪ Oh, yeah... ♪

287
00:15:20,836 --> 00:15:23,505
[Enninful] I was a stylist at the time
with an agency

288
00:15:24,089 --> 00:15:27,468
and I knew all our books went out,
every stylist in London wanted that job.

289
00:15:27,551 --> 00:15:29,553
[Camilla Nickerson] I was just
a young sprite,

290
00:15:29,637 --> 00:15:30,888
didn't know how to do much.

291
00:15:30,971 --> 00:15:35,559
I was asked to go and have an interview
with this film director, David Fincher.

292
00:15:35,643 --> 00:15:37,853
I had to go and meet him
out at a film studio

293
00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:40,522
where he was storyboarding
the set for Alien.

294
00:15:41,398 --> 00:15:44,902
I went on not to get the job
and she got the job,

295
00:15:44,985 --> 00:15:47,237
and I was devastated.

296
00:15:47,321 --> 00:15:48,614
[laughs]

297
00:15:49,448 --> 00:15:53,285
I was just happy for Camilla
because Camilla and I go back a long way.

298
00:15:53,369 --> 00:15:55,663
A lot of people say,
"I met you when you were younger,

299
00:15:55,746 --> 00:15:58,248
"I met you..." I said, "No,
there's a few people that met me

300
00:15:58,332 --> 00:16:00,417
"when I was 14
and Camilla was one of them."

301
00:16:00,501 --> 00:16:02,127
She was a real talent.

302
00:16:02,211 --> 00:16:04,380
♪ And I guess it was enough for me... ♪

303
00:16:04,463 --> 00:16:07,424
I was really nervous
because then you've gotta do it.

304
00:16:07,508 --> 00:16:09,385
♪ ...the game is not the same
No way ♪

305
00:16:10,177 --> 00:16:11,762
♪ Think I'm gonna get me some happy... ♪

306
00:16:11,845 --> 00:16:16,058
David had a very clear idea
to see the women being themselves.

307
00:16:16,141 --> 00:16:18,936
♪ I think there's something
you should know... ♪

308
00:16:19,019 --> 00:16:21,146
[Nickerson] One thing that he wanted
was an enormous,

309
00:16:21,230 --> 00:16:23,357
long white sheet for Christy

310
00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,110
made out of a very particular Irish linen.

311
00:16:26,193 --> 00:16:30,364
And so all of my budget...
[laughing] just went on the sheet.

312
00:16:31,657 --> 00:16:33,701
♪ I just hope you understand ♪

313
00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:36,662
♪ Sometimes the clothes
do not make the man... ♪

314
00:16:36,745 --> 00:16:39,790
I still had to find the clothes
for the rest of the cast

315
00:16:39,873 --> 00:16:42,376
and then that pretty much
came from my wardrobe.

316
00:16:43,085 --> 00:16:45,838
My boyfriend's boots ended up
on Naomi's feet.

317
00:16:45,921 --> 00:16:48,882
Nev's boots? They were Nev's?
That doesn't surprise me.

318
00:16:48,966 --> 00:16:53,178
And this lovely mohair sweater was the one
that Linda pulled over her head.

319
00:16:53,262 --> 00:16:55,848
♪ All we have to see... ♪

320
00:16:55,931 --> 00:16:59,643
My God, it must've been
all smelly when she got that sweater back.

321
00:16:59,727 --> 00:17:03,147
That was a lot of hours in that sweater.

322
00:17:03,230 --> 00:17:05,190
♪ Freedom! ♪

323
00:17:05,274 --> 00:17:07,401
It was in a huge hangar.

324
00:17:07,484 --> 00:17:10,571
The girls were super nervous
and practising their lines.

325
00:17:10,654 --> 00:17:13,073
Naomi and Linda were like trying
to get it just right.

326
00:17:13,157 --> 00:17:16,076
This video was absolutely incredible.

327
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,912
You look at it
and you have the goose bumps.

328
00:17:18,996 --> 00:17:21,915
I must've watched it
thousands and thousands of times

329
00:17:21,999 --> 00:17:25,252
because the girls looked gorgeous,
he was incredible,

330
00:17:25,335 --> 00:17:29,423
obviously, Linda in that video
was just like heaven.

331
00:17:30,007 --> 00:17:31,258
♪ Freedom! ♪

332
00:17:31,341 --> 00:17:35,137
At the time, I was the face of Chanel
and the advice was

333
00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:37,556
I could be jeopardising
my high-fashion position

334
00:17:37,639 --> 00:17:38,807
by doing a pop video.

335
00:17:38,891 --> 00:17:41,185
Then when I saw it I thought,

336
00:17:41,268 --> 00:17:43,187
"Hmmm. I should've done this."
[chuckles]

337
00:17:45,355 --> 00:17:48,984
[Nickerson] Later I got a phone call,
and I was very surprised

338
00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:51,195
because it was Anna Wintour on the phone.

339
00:17:51,278 --> 00:17:55,365
"Would you like a job at American Vogue?"
I just thought it was a bit of a joke.

340
00:17:55,449 --> 00:17:58,869
Is somebody pretending to be Anna?
You know, I was like, "Sure."

341
00:18:02,081 --> 00:18:05,209
[Enninful] That video was pretty much
in every household around the world.

342
00:18:06,168 --> 00:18:08,087
All of a sudden you knew who they were.

343
00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:11,131
Naomi, Linda, Christy, Cindy,
they didn't need second names.

344
00:18:15,094 --> 00:18:16,720
[reporter] Supermodels, who are they?

345
00:18:16,804 --> 00:18:19,640
Ask anybody in any shopping mall.

346
00:18:19,723 --> 00:18:21,767
-[reporter] This woman?
-That's Christy Turlington.

347
00:18:21,850 --> 00:18:23,811
Do you all know who this is?

348
00:18:23,894 --> 00:18:24,978
Linda Evangelista.

349
00:18:25,062 --> 00:18:26,605
Suddenly I felt famous.

350
00:18:27,689 --> 00:18:29,817
Something I had never felt before.

351
00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:33,195
I remember, in Milan,

352
00:18:33,278 --> 00:18:35,197
when we woke up to read

353
00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,617
what I had eaten for breakfast
the previous morning,

354
00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:42,454
I was like, "No, why would they care?
This is a joke." [laughs]

355
00:18:42,996 --> 00:18:46,625
And it just put us on another level,
that's for sure.

356
00:18:46,708 --> 00:18:48,502
For me, I loved Linda.

357
00:18:48,585 --> 00:18:52,089
I was completely Linda obsessed.

358
00:18:56,718 --> 00:18:58,846
[reporter] Are there any drawbacks
to being so beautiful?

359
00:18:59,972 --> 00:19:00,973
No.

360
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,641
No.

361
00:19:03,433 --> 00:19:04,434
No.

362
00:19:04,518 --> 00:19:06,228
She was the reason why I cut my hair,

363
00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:09,940
she was the reason why I dyed my hair
lots of different colours.

364
00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:18,157
I remember I was in New York
and I went to Garren

365
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,869
who was Linda's hairdresser,
so I was like,

366
00:19:21,952 --> 00:19:24,997
"Oh, my God! This is Linda's hairdresser
touching my hair."

367
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,373
And he cut all my hair off.

368
00:19:27,666 --> 00:19:30,335
I was channelling my inner Linda.

369
00:19:31,336 --> 00:19:34,131
They attract almost
as much media attention as royalty.

370
00:19:34,214 --> 00:19:35,841
Naomi Campbell.

371
00:19:35,924 --> 00:19:37,509
They were giving interviews

372
00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:40,137
and they were becoming personalities
in their own right.

373
00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:42,723
It's nice to meet you.
I see you in all these magazines.

374
00:19:42,806 --> 00:19:47,186
So they weren't these silent,
removed people that you couldn't touch.

375
00:19:47,269 --> 00:19:50,189
They were the equivalent
of the biggest movie stars we have today.

376
00:19:50,272 --> 00:19:54,151
They had the licence
to do almost anything.

377
00:19:54,234 --> 00:19:57,070
The public became fascinated
by the supermodels.

378
00:20:01,867 --> 00:20:04,328
[Van Meter] It was in the summer of 1990,

379
00:20:04,411 --> 00:20:07,748
Anna sent me to write
about Linda and Christy.

380
00:20:09,166 --> 00:20:12,502
And at the time, I had written, like,
one other piece for Vogue.

381
00:20:15,130 --> 00:20:17,257
Linda was an hour late.

382
00:20:17,341 --> 00:20:23,805
And she was wearing, like...
kind of like a pale green miniskirt

383
00:20:23,889 --> 00:20:26,350
that was just as short
as it could possibly be.

384
00:20:26,433 --> 00:20:30,729
We drank vodka,
she smoked Marlboro Reds the whole time.

385
00:20:30,812 --> 00:20:33,941
She ordered two pieces of chocolate cake,
didn't eat any dinner.

386
00:20:34,024 --> 00:20:35,567
[laughs]

387
00:20:35,651 --> 00:20:38,070
I remember thinking, "Of course,
like, this is perfect.

388
00:20:38,153 --> 00:20:40,280
"You're a supermodel.
This is how they are, right?"

389
00:20:41,573 --> 00:20:43,867
I think I basically said,
"How much money do you make?"

390
00:20:43,951 --> 00:20:48,330
And she said, "We won't get out of bed
for less than $10,000 a day."

391
00:20:49,706 --> 00:20:51,833
One of those moments
where you slowly lean in

392
00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:53,835
to make sure the tape recorder's running.

393
00:20:55,337 --> 00:20:57,714
I knew right away
that's, like, the last line.

394
00:20:59,216 --> 00:21:04,221
I remember getting a call saying,
"Anna doesn't like the ending.

395
00:21:04,304 --> 00:21:06,515
"She thinks it makes them sound mean."

396
00:21:06,598 --> 00:21:09,101
I was embarrassed for her,

397
00:21:09,184 --> 00:21:11,728
that it would not reflect well on Linda

398
00:21:11,812 --> 00:21:14,606
who was so much a part of,
you know, our being,

399
00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:17,067
our world, our family.

400
00:21:17,150 --> 00:21:20,195
And I just put up a fight, I was like,
"You cannot cut this line."

401
00:21:22,698 --> 00:21:26,159
I just knew instinctively that it would
be the quote heard round the world.

402
00:21:28,328 --> 00:21:30,163
I had no idea that...

403
00:21:32,124 --> 00:21:34,001
so much attention would've been
brought to it.

404
00:21:38,422 --> 00:21:41,174
[Enninful] The world thought,
"My God. We were in a recession."

405
00:21:41,258 --> 00:21:42,801
I remember every day leaving the house

406
00:21:42,884 --> 00:21:47,014
and being so thankful
that I could at least earn £9,000 a year.

407
00:21:47,097 --> 00:21:51,018
Fellow models, such as Linda Evangelista
made some pretty shocking comments,

408
00:21:51,101 --> 00:21:54,396
"I won't get out of bed
for less than $10,000 a day."

409
00:21:54,479 --> 00:21:58,859
I think she said it to be funny,
but in print, it didn't read as funny.

410
00:21:58,942 --> 00:22:03,071
I think poor Linda
has regretted ever saying that.

411
00:22:03,155 --> 00:22:05,866
I don't wanna be known for that.

412
00:22:05,949 --> 00:22:08,660
I've done so much more
than just that quote,

413
00:22:08,744 --> 00:22:11,580
you know, and it's really sticking.

414
00:22:11,663 --> 00:22:14,958
She certainly got out of bed
for less than $10,000 for Vogue.

415
00:22:17,919 --> 00:22:22,257
[people chattering indistinctly]

416
00:22:22,341 --> 00:22:25,135
I think that the stories that fashion
had been telling

417
00:22:25,218 --> 00:22:28,138
had lost touch
with what people were feeling

418
00:22:28,221 --> 00:22:30,015
and that they were seeing,
that they were living.

419
00:22:30,974 --> 00:22:32,142
[Enninful] We weren't rich.

420
00:22:32,225 --> 00:22:35,562
We weren't going
into Sloane Street buying outfits,

421
00:22:35,645 --> 00:22:37,272
we were just trawling the markets.

422
00:22:38,273 --> 00:22:42,110
We really wanted magazines
to reflect the world we lived in.

423
00:22:43,487 --> 00:22:47,324
[Moss] I remember the photographer
Corinne Day kind of saying,

424
00:22:47,407 --> 00:22:50,660
"We're gonna change the world."
And I was just like,

425
00:22:50,744 --> 00:22:54,581
"With a fashion picture?"
But they kind of did.

426
00:22:59,586 --> 00:23:01,421
[Enninful] Corinne Day's
Third Summer of Love shoot

427
00:23:01,505 --> 00:23:03,590
with Kate Moss on the cover of The Face,

428
00:23:03,673 --> 00:23:06,051
with that huge smile, the wrinkled nose,

429
00:23:06,134 --> 00:23:09,054
that felt real to us.

430
00:23:09,137 --> 00:23:12,182
I remember seeing Kate in that picture
and I was just like...

431
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,726
blown away.

432
00:23:15,727 --> 00:23:19,481
[Goodman] The Face magazine
was this small British magazine,

433
00:23:19,564 --> 00:23:23,026
but everybody noticed that cover
within the fashion industry.

434
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:26,780
There was such authenticity
in Corinne's pictures that you felt

435
00:23:26,863 --> 00:23:28,824
these have to be the real deal.

436
00:23:28,907 --> 00:23:31,618
With the clothes
that we knew from the markets,

437
00:23:31,701 --> 00:23:35,622
with the fashion that we understood,
the little daisies in the hair,

438
00:23:35,705 --> 00:23:36,832
little leather strings,

439
00:23:38,166 --> 00:23:41,503
that headdress,
I mean, you wouldn't get away with it now.

440
00:23:41,586 --> 00:23:45,424
The reason I think that story
is such a strong, pivotal story

441
00:23:45,507 --> 00:23:46,967
is because it's not about fashion.

442
00:23:48,927 --> 00:23:51,513
You're watching a girl,
you're not looking at the clothes

443
00:23:51,596 --> 00:23:53,432
and that's a real change of direction.

444
00:23:54,808 --> 00:23:56,435
[Enninful] It was a rejection of fashion.

445
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:58,979
Anti-fashion became fashion.

446
00:23:59,896 --> 00:24:01,857
[Moss] I didn't like
some of the pictures

447
00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:03,525
because that's not how I wanted to...

448
00:24:03,608 --> 00:24:06,361
like at, you know, 15,
I wanted to be glamorous

449
00:24:06,445 --> 00:24:09,489
and what they were showing
in the magazines at the time.

450
00:24:10,365 --> 00:24:14,494
The first Face shoot, horrible,
really awful.

451
00:24:14,578 --> 00:24:19,624
To me, fashion magazines
are all about unattainable flavour.

452
00:24:20,834 --> 00:24:22,002
It wasn't fashion.

453
00:24:22,085 --> 00:24:25,964
I mean, I think this was very difficult
for a lot of women.

454
00:24:26,047 --> 00:24:30,093
There was this kind of woman
with a certain shape,

455
00:24:30,177 --> 00:24:31,303
whose hair was done,

456
00:24:31,386 --> 00:24:33,388
whose makeup was done,
whose nails were done.

457
00:24:33,472 --> 00:24:37,058
And then all of a sudden comes Kate
saying, like, "You know what?

458
00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:41,688
"It's, like, a slip and no makeup,"
and it's, like, people were lost.

459
00:24:41,771 --> 00:24:44,524
Not young people,
but certainly those women

460
00:24:44,608 --> 00:24:46,485
who were used to going
to the beauty parlour

461
00:24:46,568 --> 00:24:48,945
and opening Vogue, they were lost.

462
00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:52,866
You know... [scoffs] as a New York girl,
that grew up on the Upper East Side

463
00:24:52,949 --> 00:24:55,660
and, you know, for me,
it was very shocking.

464
00:24:55,744 --> 00:25:00,665
When I saw Kate in those photographs,
I had no idea what she would become.

465
00:25:00,957 --> 00:25:03,502
[♪ pleasant music playing]

466
00:25:09,049 --> 00:25:13,386
The first time I met Kate,
I walked into The Face magazine

467
00:25:14,221 --> 00:25:19,935
and Kate was sort of walking towards me
and it was really...

468
00:25:20,018 --> 00:25:21,478
I'm saying this without exaggeration,

469
00:25:21,561 --> 00:25:23,897
it was really like one of those
cheesy scenes in a film

470
00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:25,690
where everything just went
into slow motion

471
00:25:25,774 --> 00:25:27,734
and angels came out and spoke to me.

472
00:25:27,817 --> 00:25:31,780
I'd never seen anyone
so staggeringly beautiful before.

473
00:25:31,863 --> 00:25:33,823
It literally, like, silenced me.

474
00:25:33,907 --> 00:25:35,325
It's the only time I've ever had that,

475
00:25:35,408 --> 00:25:38,787
which is surprising considering
the amount of actors and actresses

476
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:41,665
and celebrities that I've photographed
over the years.

477
00:25:45,835 --> 00:25:49,422
It's interesting because Kate Moss
on the cover of The Face magazine

478
00:25:49,506 --> 00:25:52,968
did not turn her into a supermodel
right away.

479
00:25:53,051 --> 00:25:55,470
The fashion industry actually
wasn't ready for her.

480
00:25:57,514 --> 00:25:59,391
[Luchford] I took some Polaroids of her

481
00:25:59,474 --> 00:26:02,269
and I started taking them
to show designers in London

482
00:26:02,352 --> 00:26:04,729
and I couldn't get anyone interested.

483
00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:08,567
They still wanted to work with people
that had more of a sort of '80s aesthetic.

484
00:26:09,442 --> 00:26:11,778
At that point, I'd become friends with her

485
00:26:11,861 --> 00:26:15,365
and she was still travelling
back and forth from Croydon

486
00:26:15,448 --> 00:26:18,285
and she would borrow money
to get the train home, completely broke,

487
00:26:18,368 --> 00:26:21,288
picking up the odd editorial here
which you never got paid for

488
00:26:21,371 --> 00:26:23,415
or little advertising job there.

489
00:26:24,165 --> 00:26:28,253
And I remember her saying,
"I'm going to New York this weekend."

490
00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:32,215
-[engine whirring]
-[car horn beeping]

491
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,930
Calvin Klein called me up, he said like,

492
00:26:39,014 --> 00:26:40,098
"Can we meet?"

493
00:26:40,181 --> 00:26:44,936
At the time, Calvin Klein had struggled
during the recession

494
00:26:45,020 --> 00:26:47,022
and it needed a rebrand.

495
00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:50,900
He said like, "I have like these jeans
that I've been doing for years.

496
00:26:52,777 --> 00:26:57,949
"Now I really want to change
and I need a logo.

497
00:26:58,033 --> 00:26:59,826
"Can you come up with something?"

498
00:26:59,909 --> 00:27:02,746
And then I went on to do the CK logo,
as you know.

499
00:27:05,206 --> 00:27:08,335
And then Calvin asked me to
do the jeans campaign,

500
00:27:08,418 --> 00:27:11,838
the Calvin Klein Jeans
and he put a picture on the table,

501
00:27:13,131 --> 00:27:15,550
he said like, "I want pictures like that."

502
00:27:16,259 --> 00:27:20,138
The girl was sitting down
and she was wearing a pair of jeans.

503
00:27:21,014 --> 00:27:22,223
It was Vanessa Paradis

504
00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:26,186
and he said, "I wanna do a campaign
with Vanessa Paradis, but topless."

505
00:27:29,898 --> 00:27:33,276
I mean, there's something in me
that I don't mind provoking a little bit.

506
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:37,155
Right, I mean, I'm French,
so provocation is part of the game.

507
00:27:37,238 --> 00:27:38,323
[chuckles] Uh...

508
00:27:38,406 --> 00:27:43,328
So anything a little bit controversial,
I was like, "Yeah, let's do it."

509
00:27:43,411 --> 00:27:47,540
So we start, contact Vanessa Paradis.
Blah, blah, blah.

510
00:27:47,624 --> 00:27:50,543
"No, don't want to do it."
She didn't wanna do it.

511
00:27:50,627 --> 00:27:51,961
She just didn't want to do it.

512
00:27:52,045 --> 00:27:55,256
She didn't want to do Calvin Klein
because she was Chanel.

513
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:59,302
Nevertheless, we need to find someone
that is like that and like...

514
00:28:01,054 --> 00:28:03,473
there I said like, "Well, Kate Moss.

515
00:28:04,724 --> 00:28:07,268
"You should meet that girl Kate Moss,
it'd be perfect."

516
00:28:09,062 --> 00:28:13,566
And Kate Moss, she looked very cute,
but she didn't look like a model.

517
00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:16,903
She was a bit short,
a little bit crooked legs,

518
00:28:16,986 --> 00:28:20,073
teeth were like a little bit eh,
like, not perfect.

519
00:28:22,158 --> 00:28:24,619
But you put her in front of a camera
and...

520
00:28:24,703 --> 00:28:26,871
[mimicking explosion] it explodes.

521
00:28:33,878 --> 00:28:38,425
So we organise a meeting
with Kate and Calvin.

522
00:28:39,801 --> 00:28:41,428
We're sitting in his office.

523
00:28:42,429 --> 00:28:45,473
And Kate Moss comes in,
and she starts talking

524
00:28:45,557 --> 00:28:47,308
with her English like, "Oh, no."

525
00:28:47,392 --> 00:28:50,937
Like lowering her face,
like super cute, like adorable.

526
00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:54,023
We sat her on the carpet,
just like the picture

527
00:28:54,107 --> 00:28:55,859
and Calvin was like, "Oh, my God!

528
00:28:56,860 --> 00:28:59,988
"It's perfect, it's perfect,
it's perfect."

529
00:29:00,071 --> 00:29:03,074
That was it. Kate Moss became
the new Calvin Klein girl.

530
00:29:07,078 --> 00:29:10,206
[Moss] I remember hearing
that Vanessa Paradis didn't wanna do it.

531
00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:13,418
Oh. Okay, well, I'll have it.
[chuckles]

532
00:29:13,501 --> 00:29:17,881
Calvin Klein signed her to a contract
and she flew home on Concorde

533
00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:22,260
with three million bucks in her pocket
and it was like, "Fuck, this is awesome."

534
00:29:22,343 --> 00:29:23,720
[chuckles]

535
00:29:23,803 --> 00:29:27,474
So it was really like a sort of
transformation that took place in a week.

536
00:29:28,808 --> 00:29:31,936
Calvin was the one
that saw the power of Kate

537
00:29:32,020 --> 00:29:34,606
before anybody else,
certainly before any...

538
00:29:34,689 --> 00:29:37,192
Maybe others, people at Vogue,
but I certainly didn't see it.

539
00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:40,987
[Moss] The timing was everything.

540
00:29:41,070 --> 00:29:45,784
A year before or a year later,
it wouldn't have happened.

541
00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:48,161
The first shoot was a lot of singles

542
00:29:48,244 --> 00:29:50,580
with the photographer,
Patrick Demarchelier,

543
00:29:50,663 --> 00:29:53,166
but then I did my first big commercial.

544
00:29:53,249 --> 00:29:55,710
I was really nervous.

545
00:29:55,794 --> 00:30:02,509
It brought together this unknown model
with this notoriously famous rap star.

546
00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:05,512
[reporter] Do you know this face?

547
00:30:06,554 --> 00:30:09,933
Okay, forget about the face,
do you know the rest of him?

548
00:30:10,016 --> 00:30:11,184
[photographer] This is perfect.

549
00:30:11,267 --> 00:30:12,685
[reporter] It's Marky Mark.

550
00:30:13,478 --> 00:30:15,647
Marky Mark at the time, Mark Wahlberg,

551
00:30:15,730 --> 00:30:19,108
he's an Oscar-nominated actor these days,
but back then

552
00:30:19,192 --> 00:30:23,822
was one of the biggest hip-hop stars
and he was sort of loved by men, women.

553
00:30:24,906 --> 00:30:27,951
And he was famous
for having his pants on show.

554
00:30:28,034 --> 00:30:32,080
Shout goes out to my man Calvin Klein.
Good lookin' out for the drawers.

555
00:30:32,163 --> 00:30:37,961
When I saw that advertising,
his remarkable body was certainly awesome.

556
00:30:38,545 --> 00:30:40,129
[Enninful] You caught them at a moment.

557
00:30:40,213 --> 00:30:42,382
It was the first time a hip-hop star,

558
00:30:42,465 --> 00:30:45,927
or pretty much any music star
had fronted a high-fashion campaign.

559
00:30:46,803 --> 00:30:47,804
Ooh. She got freckles.

560
00:30:47,887 --> 00:30:49,180
[mimicking motorcycle]

561
00:30:49,264 --> 00:30:50,640
Next question.

562
00:30:51,224 --> 00:30:53,142
[Moss] It was quite overwhelming.

563
00:30:53,226 --> 00:30:56,896
I was 18, you know,
he was a big superstar rapper

564
00:30:56,980 --> 00:31:00,525
and I still felt like a, you know,
just a girl from Croydon.

565
00:31:00,608 --> 00:31:01,901
They asked me to be topless,

566
00:31:01,985 --> 00:31:05,572
it was just a lot of people on set,
a lot of men.

567
00:31:06,155 --> 00:31:07,490
I did feel vulnerable.

568
00:31:08,491 --> 00:31:11,744
Now that could definitely
come between me and my Calvins.

569
00:31:11,828 --> 00:31:13,621
Do you have Calvin Klein underwear on?

570
00:31:14,664 --> 00:31:17,292
That advert premiered
on the music channel MTV

571
00:31:17,375 --> 00:31:20,712
in every household,
pretty much all over the world.

572
00:31:20,795 --> 00:31:21,963
Calvin's clever.

573
00:31:22,046 --> 00:31:25,258
He had an instinct
about what young people wanted to see.

574
00:31:25,341 --> 00:31:27,427
-[sirens wailing in the distance]
-[car horn beeping]

575
00:31:27,510 --> 00:31:31,097
[Parker] I remember Calvin Klein ads
all over the buses,

576
00:31:31,681 --> 00:31:33,349
all over Times Square.

577
00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:35,560
You know, I lined up
for my Calvin Klein underwear

578
00:31:35,643 --> 00:31:37,896
at Bloomingdales like everybody else.
The minute they dropped,

579
00:31:37,979 --> 00:31:41,941
I was there 7:00 in the morning
at Bloomingdales on 59th and Lex.

580
00:31:42,025 --> 00:31:44,235
You know,
these people were influencing us.

581
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:48,031
That campaign turned around the fortunes
for Calvin Klein.

582
00:31:48,114 --> 00:31:49,490
It went crazy.

583
00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:53,202
People went crazy for Marky Mark
and crazy for Kate Moss.

584
00:31:55,705 --> 00:31:58,124
All the photographers wanted Kate,
Kate, Kate, Kate, Kate.

585
00:31:59,459 --> 00:32:00,919
They all wanted to work with her.

586
00:32:01,753 --> 00:32:06,174
She was anti-supermodel, anti-fashion

587
00:32:06,257 --> 00:32:11,054
and she was 100% real,
and 100% the '90s.

588
00:32:12,972 --> 00:32:15,808
[John Galliano] She was... is gorgeous.

589
00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:19,604
We didn't really worry
that she wasn't maybe as tall

590
00:32:19,687 --> 00:32:21,981
as the other girls
or maybe not this or that.

591
00:32:22,065 --> 00:32:24,984
Kate was Kate,
you booked Kate because it was Kate.

592
00:32:25,068 --> 00:32:27,654
She had a very different kind of beauty

593
00:32:27,737 --> 00:32:32,533
and it altered our perception
of what was beautiful.

594
00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:37,121
Models did not look like Kate Moss
before Kate Moss.

595
00:32:38,414 --> 00:32:41,668
[Enninful] I remember thinking,
"My God, fashion's really changed."

596
00:32:41,751 --> 00:32:45,213
Kate ushered in a whole new body shape
and a new kind of beauty.

597
00:32:46,547 --> 00:32:50,635
[reporter] Among the new names is Shalom,
Kristen McMenamy

598
00:32:50,718 --> 00:32:53,012
and there's 19-year-old Amber Valletta.

599
00:32:53,096 --> 00:32:57,684
We represented raw beauty,
you know, edgy and different.

600
00:32:57,767 --> 00:33:00,561
There was something sort of a little off.

601
00:33:00,645 --> 00:33:01,771
[laughs]

602
00:33:01,854 --> 00:33:03,523
Me, I've got a giant forehead.

603
00:33:04,857 --> 00:33:07,694
Kate's got the wide-set eyes.

604
00:33:07,777 --> 00:33:11,739
She had crooked teeth, quite fangy really.

605
00:33:11,823 --> 00:33:12,865
Sorry, Kate.

606
00:33:13,950 --> 00:33:19,455
Before Kate, I was sick of trying
to be a pretty girl

607
00:33:20,289 --> 00:33:22,250
because I felt almost like a fake.

608
00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:27,005
And then the hair got chopped,
I shaved my eyebrows off.

609
00:33:27,088 --> 00:33:31,259
That's when it started to really take off.

610
00:33:33,761 --> 00:33:38,349
The change came like a train
coming out of nowhere in the dark.

611
00:33:41,102 --> 00:33:44,313
All of the supermodels
and all of the supermodels of tomorrow...

612
00:33:44,397 --> 00:33:45,982
I was of tomorrow,

613
00:33:46,065 --> 00:33:47,650
we weren't getting booked any more.

614
00:33:47,734 --> 00:33:49,694
Some blamed Kate, you know,

615
00:33:49,777 --> 00:33:53,781
for sort of changing essentially
what modelling was.

616
00:33:55,950 --> 00:34:00,121
The other girls could feel that Kate
was the new thing.

617
00:34:00,913 --> 00:34:01,998
Um...

618
00:34:02,999 --> 00:34:04,083
For sure.

619
00:34:04,792 --> 00:34:08,796
Some expressed their feelings too,
but I'll let Kate tell you those stories.

620
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,881
[laughs]

621
00:34:09,964 --> 00:34:11,424
Oh, no.

622
00:34:11,507 --> 00:34:13,217
[laughs]

623
00:34:13,301 --> 00:34:15,053
I'm mentioning no names.

624
00:34:15,136 --> 00:34:18,014
Yeah, there was definitely a bit of like,

625
00:34:18,097 --> 00:34:20,349
"She's come along,
what's gonna happen to us?"

626
00:34:20,433 --> 00:34:21,893
They knew.

627
00:34:21,976 --> 00:34:24,979
I remember being backstage
at a fashion show in New York City

628
00:34:25,063 --> 00:34:26,689
and all the supers were like,

629
00:34:26,773 --> 00:34:30,068
"Oh, my God, Calvin didn't book any of us.
Calvin didn't book any of us."

630
00:34:30,151 --> 00:34:33,279
I remember the panic
on all of those supermodels' faces.

631
00:34:33,362 --> 00:34:34,947
If you have a hockey team,

632
00:34:35,948 --> 00:34:39,744
you don't retire the whole team
all at once.

633
00:34:39,827 --> 00:34:41,829
You bring in rookies one at a time.

634
00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:44,457
I mean, I'm...

635
00:34:44,540 --> 00:34:48,044
It's really nice to see these new girls.

636
00:34:48,628 --> 00:34:53,633
My first season at the shows,
I was intimidated.

637
00:34:53,716 --> 00:34:54,884
Not now, please.

638
00:34:56,052 --> 00:34:58,012
They just seemed giants to me

639
00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:02,016
and I was like scrawny
and, you know, quite shy.

640
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:03,851
They're just more sophisticated.

641
00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:07,188
They're women and I'm not really
a woman yet, I don't think.

642
00:35:08,022 --> 00:35:10,441
But then Christy and Naomi
took me under their wing,

643
00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:13,486
so from that moment on, I was fine.

644
00:35:13,569 --> 00:35:14,821
[people chattering indistinctly]

645
00:35:16,489 --> 00:35:20,493
What was kind of clever actually
was how Christy Turlington

646
00:35:20,576 --> 00:35:23,579
and Linda Evangelista decided
they didn't wanna be left out of it,

647
00:35:23,663 --> 00:35:25,123
and changed their haircut,

648
00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:27,041
and changed their look,

649
00:35:27,125 --> 00:35:30,378
and suddenly boom,
they were being photographed by Dave Sims

650
00:35:30,461 --> 00:35:31,754
and Corinne Day,
and they were in it.

651
00:35:34,173 --> 00:35:36,676
[people chattering indistinctly]

652
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:42,223
I remember thinking
it was a very kind of exciting time,

653
00:35:42,306 --> 00:35:45,393
seeing those new faces
coming into the scene,

654
00:35:45,476 --> 00:35:49,522
but in those very early '90s,
we were losing a lot of people too.

655
00:35:49,605 --> 00:35:51,941
[♪ melancholy music playing]

656
00:35:56,279 --> 00:35:58,781
[Wintour] The fashion community
was one of the hardest hit,

657
00:35:58,865 --> 00:36:02,326
so many people that we cared deeply about
were being affected.

658
00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:04,662
You'd be at a dinner party,

659
00:36:04,745 --> 00:36:08,833
the light would catch a friend's face
just a certain way.

660
00:36:08,916 --> 00:36:10,251
[gasps]

661
00:36:11,252 --> 00:36:12,378
And you knew.

662
00:36:12,962 --> 00:36:17,842
It's hard to think about this now,
but there really was trepidation

663
00:36:17,925 --> 00:36:21,304
about talking about HIV
or the illness itself.

664
00:36:21,387 --> 00:36:23,055
It was just not discussed.

665
00:36:23,139 --> 00:36:27,685
I become very inarticulate
when this subject comes up,

666
00:36:27,768 --> 00:36:32,023
but, um, Robert, who was my partner,

667
00:36:32,106 --> 00:36:33,858
we were together
for nine and a half years,

668
00:36:33,941 --> 00:36:35,109
he died of AIDS.

669
00:36:35,693 --> 00:36:38,029
My boyfriend died of AIDS.

670
00:36:38,112 --> 00:36:41,407
You know,
out of my ten best college friends,

671
00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:44,827
only seven, well, seven died,
three are alive.

672
00:36:44,911 --> 00:36:49,999
I had a, you know, a really close friend
called Alan Buxbaum whom I...

673
00:36:51,417 --> 00:36:54,212
Was one of the first people I met
when I first moved to New York.

674
00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:58,132
We spent a lot of time... with him.

675
00:36:58,216 --> 00:37:01,844
I had just had my first child
and he told my husband,

676
00:37:03,179 --> 00:37:05,473
"My biggest regret
is I won't see him grow up."

677
00:37:08,392 --> 00:37:10,770
I mean, it's just...

678
00:37:11,979 --> 00:37:17,652
I just don't even have words to describe
how horribly sad and terrifying it was.

679
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:24,408
We'd lost so many friends at that point,
and people still weren't talking about it.

680
00:37:24,492 --> 00:37:27,787
I think that Anna felt

681
00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:32,041
the fashion industry
hadn't done enough, honestly.

682
00:37:32,124 --> 00:37:36,921
The most urgent need at the time,
beyond raising the money,

683
00:37:37,004 --> 00:37:39,590
was to make people aware

684
00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:41,884
that the whole world
was being affected by this.

685
00:37:42,802 --> 00:37:47,265
So it was not a question
of should we do this,

686
00:37:47,348 --> 00:37:50,768
it's just a question
of how should we do it, how quickly,

687
00:37:50,851 --> 00:37:54,939
how can we make a statement
that will reach

688
00:37:55,022 --> 00:37:58,276
not only our community but the world?

689
00:37:59,235 --> 00:38:02,071
It may be one of the largest
single charity events ever,

690
00:38:02,154 --> 00:38:04,282
Seventh Avenue is going on sale tonight,

691
00:38:04,365 --> 00:38:07,368
selling $20 million worth
of retail designer goods

692
00:38:07,451 --> 00:38:09,495
that will go for a fraction of that price,

693
00:38:09,578 --> 00:38:11,539
all the money will go
towards the battle to fight AIDS.

694
00:38:11,622 --> 00:38:15,001
Listen, when Anna wants to do something,
Anna does it

695
00:38:15,084 --> 00:38:21,299
and Anna does it probably in the biggest,
most important, creative way.

696
00:38:21,382 --> 00:38:22,758
And it was amazing.

697
00:38:24,260 --> 00:38:27,555
[reporter] Over 100 designers
raided their showrooms,

698
00:38:27,638 --> 00:38:32,727
pouring forth a cornucopia of couture
at below wholesale prices.

699
00:38:34,103 --> 00:38:39,358
The idea was to create a street fair
where designers all came

700
00:38:39,442 --> 00:38:41,027
and manned their booths.

701
00:38:41,110 --> 00:38:43,154
This looks great,
but we don't have more variety.

702
00:38:43,237 --> 00:38:45,031
So if you were at the Calvin Klein booth,

703
00:38:45,114 --> 00:38:48,075
Calvin was there
or if you were at the Vogue booth,

704
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:50,036
I and many other editors were there.

705
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:53,080
She had this idea
to get everybody together.

706
00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:55,374
You don't say no to Anna.

707
00:38:55,458 --> 00:38:57,001
[laughing]

708
00:38:57,084 --> 00:39:00,880
The word "no" does not exist
in Anna's vocabulary.

709
00:39:00,963 --> 00:39:03,966
There are 148 American designers
here represented.

710
00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:08,512
It's very important to the whole industry
and I'm part of it, so I wanna do my part.

711
00:39:08,596 --> 00:39:10,097
This is really exciting

712
00:39:10,181 --> 00:39:13,267
and I just hope
everyone's going to shop like crazy.

713
00:39:13,351 --> 00:39:15,061
[Michael Kors] The lines were huge,

714
00:39:15,144 --> 00:39:18,230
clothes were flying everywhere.
There was just this buzz.

715
00:39:19,523 --> 00:39:22,568
[Enninful] Seventh on Sale,
it was such a statement

716
00:39:22,651 --> 00:39:25,279
and it really started
to shine a light on HIV.

717
00:39:25,363 --> 00:39:27,823
And then people thought
maybe it's okay to talk about it.

718
00:39:27,907 --> 00:39:32,411
You know, if sometimes in fashion,
you feel what you do

719
00:39:32,495 --> 00:39:34,747
can feel light or frothy...

720
00:39:35,289 --> 00:39:38,709
And in this instance,
we thought, "Wow."

721
00:39:38,793 --> 00:39:41,504
What we do actually can make a difference.

722
00:39:41,587 --> 00:39:45,549
We've already raised well over $1 million
and we haven't sold one frock yet,

723
00:39:45,633 --> 00:39:47,551
so you should ask us again
on Monday morning,

724
00:39:47,635 --> 00:39:49,220
but we're hoping for a big figure.

725
00:39:50,721 --> 00:39:54,517
Seventh on Sale, as small as it was,

726
00:39:55,518 --> 00:39:57,478
really changed the conversation.

727
00:39:57,561 --> 00:40:02,024
I think when I look back at my career,
honestly, I have to say, it's...

728
00:40:02,942 --> 00:40:05,528
it's the initiative
that I am the proudest of.

729
00:40:05,611 --> 00:40:09,407
She had not actually been on the scene
that long at Vogue,

730
00:40:09,490 --> 00:40:14,120
but we all realised what a huge force
Anna and Vogue could be.

731
00:40:14,912 --> 00:40:18,999
-[sirens wailing in distance]
-[car horn beeping]

732
00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:20,709
I tell you what I loved in February was...

733
00:40:20,793 --> 00:40:22,711
I remember sitting
in lots of meetings saying,

734
00:40:22,795 --> 00:40:25,756
"Where is the next generation
of new designers

735
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,299
"that Vogue should be supporting?"

736
00:40:29,009 --> 00:40:33,764
We need people to inspire us,
not just people that are churning it out.

737
00:40:35,307 --> 00:40:38,269
Vogue had this enormous power
with the designers

738
00:40:38,352 --> 00:40:42,022
because, essentially,
Vogue could make or break them.

739
00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:44,483
I mean, more often than not,
they made them.

740
00:40:45,025 --> 00:40:47,778
[machine whirring]

741
00:40:47,862 --> 00:40:49,572
[Ferguson] Before the Internet
or social media,

742
00:40:49,655 --> 00:40:51,740
that is where
you'd get your information from.

743
00:40:51,824 --> 00:40:54,869
If the leader was telling you
that this is good,

744
00:40:54,952 --> 00:40:56,579
it got everybody looking at you.

745
00:40:56,662 --> 00:40:58,372
[machine whirring]

746
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:01,584
Vogue was very important
for the designers, you know,

747
00:41:01,667 --> 00:41:04,378
because Vogue was like a dictator.

748
00:41:04,462 --> 00:41:07,298
If you were not in Vogue,
meaning you were like...

749
00:41:07,381 --> 00:41:08,591
[mimicking snarls]

750
00:41:08,674 --> 00:41:11,677
That was the power of Vogue,
which of course was Anna Wintour.

751
00:41:14,472 --> 00:41:17,600
We were at a moment where everybody
was walking up and down,

752
00:41:17,683 --> 00:41:20,728
very uniform, kind of boring.
I mean it was...

753
00:41:20,811 --> 00:41:23,564
Those were the moments that I was happiest
to have my dark glasses

754
00:41:23,647 --> 00:41:25,149
because, you know, it was just dull.

755
00:41:29,361 --> 00:41:31,780
[Wintour] I think André,
our creative director,

756
00:41:31,864 --> 00:41:35,326
and Hamish kept saying to me,
"You really need to get to know

757
00:41:35,409 --> 00:41:38,704
"and watch what John Galliano
is doing in Paris."

758
00:41:38,787 --> 00:41:40,664
[people chattering indistinctly]

759
00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:47,671
[Wintour] You could already see
that theatricality and that storytelling.

760
00:41:48,756 --> 00:41:51,467
[Galliano] Yes, Kate! Go, go, yes!

761
00:41:51,550 --> 00:41:53,385
Wicked! Wicked!

762
00:41:53,469 --> 00:41:55,304
[Wintour] There was always a story there.

763
00:41:56,180 --> 00:42:00,392
A fleeing heiress running
from a vengeful suitor

764
00:42:01,810 --> 00:42:03,854
and you felt that emotion
and that magic

765
00:42:03,938 --> 00:42:05,814
on the runway and in the clothes.

766
00:42:06,649 --> 00:42:10,903
I intrinsically understood
that John was one of those designers

767
00:42:10,986 --> 00:42:13,280
that was just gonna change everything.

768
00:42:15,282 --> 00:42:17,576
[Bowles] Those dresses were exquisite,

769
00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:21,622
but they weren't wearable
and they were so expensive to make,

770
00:42:21,705 --> 00:42:25,000
he didn't have any money left
to make another collection.

771
00:42:25,084 --> 00:42:29,630
And I think lots of people felt
he wasn't going to survive.

772
00:42:30,589 --> 00:42:33,384
[♪ enthralling music playing]

773
00:42:33,467 --> 00:42:35,469
[car horn beeping]

774
00:42:37,721 --> 00:42:39,848
[Galliano] I was living hand to mouth,

775
00:42:39,932 --> 00:42:42,643
eating baked beans off
little Bunsen burners,

776
00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:45,479
living on friends' floors
and, you know,

777
00:42:45,563 --> 00:42:47,773
whoever would be kind enough to feed us.

778
00:42:48,274 --> 00:42:51,860
[Wintour] I mean, I was very focused
on trying to help him,

779
00:42:51,944 --> 00:42:54,488
lending John or rather giving John money

780
00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:57,866
just so he could eat
or have a cab ride home.

781
00:42:57,950 --> 00:43:01,203
Anna had said,
"You just can't miss another season, John,

782
00:43:01,287 --> 00:43:04,665
"you've gotta get your act together,
you can't, you know, you can't."

783
00:43:04,748 --> 00:43:06,208
And this was like, I don't know,

784
00:43:06,292 --> 00:43:09,253
four or five weeks
before Paris Fashion Week,

785
00:43:10,087 --> 00:43:12,840
but I had no money,
I had no way of producing stuff.

786
00:43:12,923 --> 00:43:15,342
So then Anna and André kicked in.

787
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:17,928
It was kind of extraordinary.

788
00:43:21,473 --> 00:43:25,811
Anna published a 12-page spread
featuring his last collection

789
00:43:26,604 --> 00:43:30,441
shot by the fabulous Steven Meisel
and Ellen von Unwerth.

790
00:43:31,483 --> 00:43:33,819
Even though it wasn't available
to buy anywhere.

791
00:43:35,029 --> 00:43:36,405
I mean, I didn't have a business.

792
00:43:36,488 --> 00:43:39,033
I didn't have an atelier,
but I had 12 pages in that Vogue.

793
00:43:40,284 --> 00:43:43,037
[Bowles] And that was really
a turning point.

794
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,249
From then on,
John's future was made in fact.

795
00:43:48,250 --> 00:43:52,588
I just wanted to help the wider world
to understand his genius.

796
00:43:53,881 --> 00:43:56,216
[Bowles] And then
Anna's creative director,

797
00:43:56,300 --> 00:44:00,929
André Leon Talley, took it out to
a meeting with a potential investor.

798
00:44:02,097 --> 00:44:05,851
And then I just remember André
pulled out the American Vogue.

799
00:44:05,934 --> 00:44:09,730
"This is what American Vogue thinks
of John Galliano. What are you doing?"

800
00:44:10,397 --> 00:44:12,191
[laughs]

801
00:44:14,026 --> 00:44:16,236
I mean, I must say it's rather clever,

802
00:44:16,820 --> 00:44:19,156
with Vogue's seal of approval,

803
00:44:19,823 --> 00:44:22,910
he had just enough money
to stage his show.

804
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:25,579
But I think it was like three weeks

805
00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:28,248
before the Paris Fashion Week deadline.

806
00:44:28,332 --> 00:44:30,042
How am I gonna pull this off?

807
00:44:30,125 --> 00:44:33,671
I threw myself into someone's kitchen
and kitchen table

808
00:44:33,754 --> 00:44:36,131
and started, you know,
cutting bias things

809
00:44:36,215 --> 00:44:38,926
and the only fabric we could buy
had to be off the shelf.

810
00:44:39,009 --> 00:44:41,095
And it was black, satin black crepe.

811
00:44:41,178 --> 00:44:43,097
How do I make that look like more?

812
00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:45,557
So I started using the wrong side
and the right side,

813
00:44:45,641 --> 00:44:47,935
and putting the bias together
like a jigsaw,

814
00:44:48,018 --> 00:44:50,729
calling in the favours of the girls.

815
00:44:50,813 --> 00:44:53,273
I wanted to be part of that show.

816
00:44:53,357 --> 00:44:57,361
I knew this man one day,
when he could afford to pay us, he would.

817
00:44:57,444 --> 00:44:58,987
-Hey.
-Hello.

818
00:44:59,697 --> 00:45:02,908
[Moss] I wanted to do it,
it was the make-or-break show.

819
00:45:05,202 --> 00:45:07,454
We all had just one outfit.

820
00:45:07,538 --> 00:45:09,998
Before you went on,
he would give you your character.

821
00:45:10,082 --> 00:45:13,794
You would arrive and you'd be like,
"Okay, let's hear it." Right?

822
00:45:15,129 --> 00:45:17,506
[Moss] It really revs up everything.

823
00:45:18,298 --> 00:45:22,010
Many directions were given to Kate.

824
00:45:22,094 --> 00:45:25,931
"I dunno that I can say it,
but you're a girl from Croydon

825
00:45:26,014 --> 00:45:29,143
"and you haven't had a shag for ages,
and you really wanna get fucked."

826
00:45:29,226 --> 00:45:30,227
Boom!

827
00:45:33,981 --> 00:45:35,524
[♪ opera music playing]

828
00:45:35,607 --> 00:45:39,236
I remember being there, and... oh, my God.

829
00:45:40,654 --> 00:45:44,241
It was just such excitement.

830
00:45:45,909 --> 00:45:49,246
[Moss] Each and every girl
felt so amazing.

831
00:45:51,123 --> 00:45:53,792
[Campbell] I don't know how to describe
this feeling to you,

832
00:45:54,877 --> 00:45:56,879
but the high that I felt.

833
00:45:56,962 --> 00:45:59,798
Like, it was just so beautifully done.

834
00:46:01,550 --> 00:46:04,803
[Galliano] Because you'd seen those girls,
Kate, Linda and Naomi,

835
00:46:04,887 --> 00:46:06,930
all of them on print,

836
00:46:07,514 --> 00:46:10,726
but you were able to see them
walking past you,

837
00:46:10,809 --> 00:46:13,520
and you could hear the rustle
of the silks and the taffetas

838
00:46:13,604 --> 00:46:16,064
and smell the scent of the gin
on their breath.

839
00:46:16,648 --> 00:46:18,192
And it was the first time.

840
00:46:21,069 --> 00:46:23,030
[Wintour] I remember sitting there
watching,

841
00:46:23,113 --> 00:46:25,407
it was probably 25 looks.

842
00:46:26,408 --> 00:46:29,411
Very few looks, all in black
because that's all he could afford.

843
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:33,290
That is a show I will always remember.

844
00:46:34,708 --> 00:46:39,046
This is a moment that was going
to change how we all dressed.

845
00:46:40,172 --> 00:46:44,551
He brought a level of creativity
and imagination

846
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,555
and theatricality
that we hadn't seen before.

847
00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:50,933
I mean,
many people have copied that since,

848
00:46:51,016 --> 00:46:52,309
but he was certainly the first.

849
00:46:52,392 --> 00:46:56,146
[clapping]

850
00:46:58,565 --> 00:47:01,652
[Galliano] I think, on that day,
I proved my mettle

851
00:47:01,735 --> 00:47:04,822
and I proved that I could do it
and I was a couturier.

852
00:47:04,905 --> 00:47:07,074
[clapping]

853
00:47:07,157 --> 00:47:10,536
And I think the word spread in Paris
that, you know,

854
00:47:10,619 --> 00:47:14,373
this punk in the Bastille was, you know,
getting a lot of clients.

855
00:47:14,456 --> 00:47:15,499
[laughs]

856
00:47:16,291 --> 00:47:20,462
[Bowles] Within a year, John had become
the head at Givenchy,

857
00:47:20,546 --> 00:47:24,341
the first British person
to lead a French couture house.

858
00:47:25,175 --> 00:47:30,055
And I think it was a lot to do
with Anna's backing of him, I am sure.

859
00:47:32,307 --> 00:47:35,352
Listen, we've placed some bets,
they haven't always been right.

860
00:47:35,435 --> 00:47:39,565
But I always think of Vogue as having
a deep responsibility

861
00:47:39,648 --> 00:47:44,945
to raise the profile of whatever
the talent of a generation may be.

862
00:47:45,529 --> 00:47:49,783
[Enninful] The '90s were underway
and Vogue was at the heart of everything.

863
00:47:49,867 --> 00:47:51,451
It was really amazing to watch.

864
00:47:52,286 --> 00:47:55,706
But some of the new generation
were about to shock the establishment.

865
00:47:58,750 --> 00:48:03,839
We definitely had like this attitude,
messy hair and baggy pants.

866
00:48:04,548 --> 00:48:07,050
Anna was appalled, frankly.

867
00:48:07,593 --> 00:48:09,094
[cheering]

868
00:48:09,177 --> 00:48:12,139
All of our parents were like,
"What are you guys doing?"

869
00:48:12,222 --> 00:48:15,100
I remember being completely stunned.

870
00:48:15,183 --> 00:48:16,643
[Goodman] This is gonna become a trend,

871
00:48:16,727 --> 00:48:19,021
this is gonna be something
that we're gonna endorse?

872
00:48:19,104 --> 00:48:21,189
It was awful.

873
00:48:21,273 --> 00:48:23,483
It was like, "Jesus, what has happened?"

874
00:48:24,276 --> 00:48:26,320
All of a sudden,
we were seen as careless,

875
00:48:26,403 --> 00:48:28,155
we were seen as radical.

876
00:48:28,238 --> 00:48:31,783
"No sex, we are British."
It's not the reality, you know.

877
00:48:31,867 --> 00:48:33,410
London was alive.

878
00:48:33,994 --> 00:48:37,331
We were all just in the same room
at the same time.

879
00:48:37,414 --> 00:48:39,833
[Enninful] Stella McCartney, Lee McQueen.

880
00:48:39,917 --> 00:48:42,961
I've always been a bit of a rebel
with a cause.

881
00:48:43,045 --> 00:48:44,671
[man] We are packed wall to wall!

882
00:48:44,755 --> 00:48:47,674
I say to him,
"Lee, Anna Wintour's outside the door

883
00:48:47,758 --> 00:48:51,053
"with André Leon Talley and
Grace Coddington and she can't get in."

884
00:48:51,136 --> 00:48:52,429
And he was like, "Oh, fuck 'em."

885
00:48:52,512 --> 00:48:54,348
[♪ theme music playing]

